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MDuffy · #21 07-29-2010, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by oneshotbrowing5

http://www.qdma.com/what-we-do/artic...ence-minerals/

well.......I guess that pretty much sums it up

lone cedar farm · #22 07-29-2010, 06:07 PM

I will say this, last year I used WTI 30-06 in my lick site and they were tearing it up with easily 800 pictures every 30 days. This year I just used trace mineral and brown sugar and left out the WTI product...bad idea, trail camera pics are medicore at best! Not pushing that product but I truly believe it made a difference!

MDuffy · #23 07-29-2010, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BSK_

To date, no one has been able to prove they do anything for free-ranging deer, and many have tried.

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Originally Posted by maya

I have to ask then, why does Grant Woods say deer need the trace minerals they provide? In his show on Growing Deer TV this week he talked about it. I know he is sponsored by Trophy Rock, but do you think he really believes in its use as a suppliment to better health?

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Originally Posted by BSK_

I'll guess you'll have to ask him. And when he gives you an answer, then ask him for scientific proof mineral supplementation actually works (improves the health and production of free-ranging deer).

Wait a minute, why would Grant Woods have to "prove" that minerals "improve health and production of free-ranging deer"???

As far as I know he doesn't say on his show.."It's a scientific fact that if you give your deer minerals they will be healthy and productive"...

This is kind of reflective of what's going on in the Pat and Nicole thread, but I don't think Grant is making any "false" statements intended to decieve the viewers. It is reasonable to assume he believes he is doing good for his deer. As far as I know nobody has "proven" that minerals don't do anything for the health and production of free-ranging deer?

lone cedar farm · #24 07-29-2010, 09:45 PM

why do Whitetail Deer dig and paw in natural mineral sites....FOR...THE....SALT...&...MINERALS! Of course they need and crave minerals every Mamal does your bodys made of it.

quadlee · #25 07-29-2010, 10:13 PM

I use trophy rock. I do however beleive that it does not do much for the deer besides attractant. I could be wrong, but thats just how I feel. I can tell you this the deer hammer my trophy rocks in the summer and early fall, then they pay hardly any attention to it from November to around June. maybe they just like the salt, Look at us humans we eat stuff that is way unhealthy for us and does not do our body any good, but yet we crave these foods everyday. So maybe the deer just like the rocks and mineral licks because they taste good to them. That doesnt mean that it has to do any thing to promote their health.

maya · #26 07-30-2010, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MDuffy

Wait a minute, why would Grant Woods have to "prove" that minerals "improve health and production of free-ranging deer"???

As far as I know he doesn't say on his show.."It's a scientific fact that if you give your deer minerals they will be healthy and productive"...

This is kind of reflective of what's going on in the Pat and Nicole thread, but I don't think Grant is making any "false" statements intended to decieve the viewers. It is reasonable to assume he believes he is doing good for his deer. As far as I know nobody has "proven" that minerals don't do anything for the health and production of free-ranging deer?

Where did I say Dr Woods said it's scientific fact? I simple said deer need trace minerals and he believes in the use of Trophey Rock! I have to believe since he is promoting it he thinks it works. I'm just pointing out that you have two different proffesionals w/ seemingly two different views. I certainly didn't say he made "false" statements! I also didn't say he needed to ....prove ...anything!!! I won't speak for BSK, but I don't believe he said that either.

Please don't put words in my mouth.

oneshotbrowing5 · #27 07-30-2010, 08:12 AM

maya
you asked why does DR Grant Woods say deer need s/m.
and if he belives that s/m work in a deer diet then would you not take a pay check from TR . you would be crazy not to

BSK_ · #28 07-30-2010, 10:03 AM

I don't think Grant has any connection to Trophy Rock. I don't know if he has a financial connection to any mineral product currently. He used to be associated with BioLogic's mineral supplementation product, but I don't think he is any longer.

But if someone is pushing a product they have a financial connection to, and they are making claims it improves deer health, I want to see the scientific evidence proving that claim.

I've had a longstanding relationship with Trophy Rock (but not a financial relationship) because I use and love their product. They have used quotes and pictures of mine in their advertising (with my permission). But I use the product and my quotes have been about how well Trophy Rock draws deer for photo-censusing. I've never claimed it improved herd health because I have no evidence that it does. Now access to salt/minerals probably helps. All mammals are drawn to foods high in nutrients their bodies need at the time, and mammals have been seeking out natural salt/mineral licks for eons, yet I see no sign deer that do not have access to salt/mineral licks (natural or man-made) are suffering in any way.

MDuffy · #29 07-30-2010, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by maya

Where did I say Dr Woods said it's scientific fact? I simple said deer need trace minerals and he believes in the use of Trophey Rock! I have to believe since he is promoting it he thinks it works. I'm just pointing out that you have two different proffesionals w/ seemingly two different views. I certainly didn't say he made "false" statements! I also didn't say he needed to ....prove ...anything!!! I won't speak for BSK, but I don't believe he said that either.

Please don't put words in my mouth.

Maya,

Sorry you took it that way. I was not calling you out, I was calling Bryan out.

I had to include your post for mine to make sense, which it was obviously a bad attempt.

Bryan said no one had ever "proved" that it worked. My only point was that no one had ever "proved" it doesn't. Only theories.

BSK_ · #30 07-30-2010, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MDuffy

Bryan said no one had ever "proved" that it worked. My only point was that no one had ever "proved" it doesn't. Only theories.

True. But if mineral supplementation made a significant difference in deer performance, it would be easy to prove.